INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the October 30, 2003 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / IAB Liaison Steve Bellovin / AT&T Randy Bush / IIJ Michelle Cotton / ICANN Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / Nokia Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ NONE MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 16, 2003 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Review of Action Items DONE: o Randy Bush and Thomas Narten to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level. o Secretariat to send the updated EDU Team charter to the IETF Announce list for IETF review. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system. NEW: o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue. o Harald Alvestrand to write a proposed update to the IESG Teleconference timeline. The update will move submission of items for the preliminary agenda to the Thursday before the teleconference, and will suggest that the ADs inform the IESG when they wish to submit items later than the deadline. o Secretariat to send statement to RFC Editor regarding adding RFC 974 to STD 10. o Secretariat to send a note to the IESG mailing list informing the ADs that the preliminary agenda for the November 20, 2003 IESG Teleconference will be sent on Thursday, November 13, 2003 instead of Friday, November 14. o Barbara Fuller and Harald Alvestrand to discuss the deadline for submission of WG charters for Internal Review during their Tuesday, November 4 conference call. o Harald Alvestrand to send a note to the IETF Announcement list indicating that there was a clerical error in the EDU Team charter announcement, and that the community has two weeks to review the charter. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-vrrp-spec-v2-09.txt - 1 of 4 Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (Draft Standard) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Harald Alvestrand.* o Three-document ballot: - 2 of 4 - draft-ietf-ipr-submission-rights-08.txt IETF Rights in Contributions (BCP) - draft-ietf-ipr-technology-rights-12.txt Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology (BCP) - draft-ietf-ipr-wg-guidelines-05.txt Guidelines for Working Groups on Intellectual Property Issues (Informational) Token: Harald Alvestrand These documents were approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Harald Alvestrand. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-imapext-condstore-04.txt - 3 of 4 IMAP Extension for Conditional STORE operation (Proposed Standard) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lci-option-02.txt - 4 of 4 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Option forLocation Configuration Information for GEOPRIV (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and by Thomas Narten on behalf of IANA.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-sigtran-v5ua-04.txt - 1 of 7 V5.2-User Adaption Layer (V5UA) (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. o Four-document ballot: - 2 of 7 - draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-11.txt Message Tracking Query Protocol (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-07.txt Message Tracking Model and Requirements (Informational) - draft-ietf-msgtrk-smtpext-05.txt SMTP Service Extension for Message Tracking (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-msgtrk-trkstat-05.txt An Extensible Message Format for Message Tracking Responses (Proposed Standard) Token: Ned Freed The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-webdav-acl-12.txt - 3 of 7 WebDAV Access Control Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-07.txt - 4 of 7 MIKEY: Multimedia Internet KEYing (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie and Jon Peterson.* o draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-07.txt - 5 of 7 L2TP Active Discovery Relay for PPPoE (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document's intended status was changed from Proposed Standard to Informational RFC. The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-ipv6-flow-label-08.txt - 6 of 7 IPv6 Flow Label Specification (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alex Zinin* o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-11.txt - 7 of 7 KEY RR Secure Entry Point Flag (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten on behalf of IANA.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-sigtran-signalling-over-sctp-applic-09.txt - 1 of 5 Telephony Signalling Transport over SCTP applicability statement (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-tsvwg-dsack-use-02.txt - 2 of 5 Using TCP DSACKs and SCTP Duplicate TSNs to Detect Spurious Retransmissions (Experimental) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement. o draft-ietf-rpsec-routing-threats-03.txt - 3 of 5 Generic Threats to Routing Protocols (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-geopriv-threat-analysis-01.txt - 4 of 5 Threat Analysis of the geopriv Protocol (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement. o draft-ietf-geopriv-reqs-04.txt - 5 of 5 Geopriv requirements (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-manet-tbrpf-11.txt - 1 of 3 Topology Dissemination Based on Reverse-Path Forwarding (TBRPF) (Experimental) Token: Alex Zinin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement. o draft-ietf-dhc-unused-optioncodes-07.txt - 2 of 3 Unused DHCP Option Codes (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement. o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-06.txt - 3 of 3 Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement. 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item NONE 3.2.2 Returning Item o draft-gill-gtsh-04.txt - 1 of 1 The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental) Token: Alex Zinin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action announcement. 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-dfncis-netnews-admin-sys-06.txt - 1 of 2 Netnews Administration System (NAS) (Experimental) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-01.txt - 2 of 2 Dynamic Mobile IP Key Update for cdma2000(R) Networks (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference by Steve Bellovin (11/20/03). 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3.3 To be assigned o draft-jseng-idn-admin-05.txt Internationalized Domain Names Registration and Administration Guideline for Chinese, Japanese and Korean (Informational) The document was assigned to Harald Alvestrand. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Access Link Intermediaries Assisting Services - 1 of 1 Token: Jon Peterson The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Credential and Provisioning - 1 of 2 Token: Russ Housley The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03). o IP over DVB - 2 of 2 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03). 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 Deadlines for New and Returning Items on the Telechat Timetable and Minimum Review Time for Internal Review of New and Rechartered Working Groups. (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. 7.2 Adding RFC 974 to STD 10 (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. 7.3 draft-brand-drip (Thomas Narten) This management issue was not discussed. 7.4 EDU Team Charter This management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will place the management issue on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03). ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.