INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the June 10, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the May 27, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the May 27, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-iptel-cpl-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-magma-igmp-proxy-06.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2011-update-10.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-degener-sieve-copy-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-sip-publish-04.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-ipfix-reqs-16.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-ipr-template-09.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-ospf-graceful-impl-report-05.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Harald Alvestrand to send an announcement regarding the start of two team reviews of Informational and Experimental RFCs to the IETF-Announce list. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to discuss a charter for a new Operations and Management Area working group for OPSEC. o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision. o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified in the MIME registration procedures. o Bert Wijnen to finalize text for the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules and put it on www.ops.ietf.org Web site. o Bert Wijnen to provide text for the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules to the Secretariat, so the Secretariat can make sure Internet-Drafts follow this procedure. o The Secretariat to save the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules for their use. o Thomas Narten to send the expedited handling request for draft-singer-avt-3gpp-mime to the Secretariat, requesting the assignment of an RFC number by August 16, 2004. o The Secretariat to send the expedited handling request for draft-singer-avt-3gpp-mime to the RFC Editor. o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents. o Harald Alvestrand to clarify what actions are needed to enforce the new boilerplate. June 15, 2004 is the proposed deadline for accepting I-Ds with old boilerplates. All I-Ds submitted after this date require the use of the new boilerplate. NEW: o Allison Mankin to send the expedited handling request for draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-09 and draft-ietf-ips-fccovertcpip-12 to the Secretariat. o The Secretariat to forward the expedited handling request for draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-09 and draft-ietf-ips-fccovertcpip-12 to the RFC Editor. o Russ Housley to send the expedited handling request for draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-07 to the Secretariat. o The Secretariat to forward the expedited handling request for draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-07 to the RFC Editor. 1.4 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o Two-document ballot: - 1 of 7 - draft-ietf-l3vpn-rfc2547bis-01.txt BGP/MPLS IP VPNs (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-l3vpn-as2547-05.txt Applicability Statement for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Allison Mankin.* o draft-ietf-iptel-rfc2806bis-08.txt - 2 of 7 The tel URI for Telephone Numbers (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bill Fenner and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-ikev2-14.txt - 3 of 7 Internet Key Exchange (IKEv2) Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was deferred to the next teleconference (06/24/2004) by Margaret Wasserman. o draft-ietf-tewg-mib-08.txt - 4 of 7 A Traffic Engineering MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand and Allison Mankin.* o draft-iesg-rfced-documents-02.txt - 5 of 7 The IESG and RFC Editor documents: Procedures (BCP) Token: David Kessens The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-send-ndopt-05.txt - 6 of 7 SEcure Neighbor Discovery (SEND) (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Russ Housley and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-07.txt - 7 of 7 S/MIME Version 3.1 Certificate Handling (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-ietf-nat-natmib-09.txt - 1 of 3 Definitions of Managed Objects for Network Address Translators (NAT) (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ymbk-downref-02.txt - 2 of 3 Clarifying when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level (BCP) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin.* o draft-klensin-process-july14-02.txt - 3 of 3 A model for IETF Process Experiments (BCP) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand.* 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2.3 For Action o draft-duerst-iri-08.txt - 1 of 1 Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs) (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was discussed. 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ieprep-framework-09.txt - 1 of 7 Framework for Supporting ETS in IP Telephony (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-l3vpn-ppvpn-terminology-02.txt - 2 of 7 PPVPN terminology (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-v6ops-application-transition-02.txt - 3 of 7 Application Aspects of IPv6 Transition (Informational) Token: David Kessens The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Scott Hollenbeck.* o draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-07.txt - 4 of 7 Operational Considerations and Issues with IPv6 DNS (Informational) Token: David Kessens The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-01.txt - 5 of 7 Common Misbehavior against DNS Queries for IPv6 Addresses (Informational) Token: David Kessens The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Scott Hollenbeck.* o draft-ietf-mboned-mroutesec-01.txt - 6 of 7 PIM-SM Multicast Routing Security Issues and Enhancements (Informational) Token: David Kessens The document was deferred to the next teleconference (06/24/2004) by Bill Fenner. o draft-ietf-rtgwg-igp-shortcut-01.txt - 7 of 7 Calculating IGP Routes Over Traffic Engineering Tunnels (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-walker-ieee802-req-01.txt - 1 of 1 EAP Method Requirements for Wireless LANs (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin, Margaret Wasserman, and Bert Wijnen.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-wlai-tewg-bcmodel-04.txt - 1 of 1 Bandwidth Constraints Models for Diffserv-aware MPLS Traffic Engineering: Performance Evaluation (Informational) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-dfncis-netnews-admin-sys-06.txt - 1 of 1 Netnews Administration System (NAS) (Experimental) Token: Scott Hollenbeck The document was deferred to the next teleconference (06/24/2004) by Steve Bellovin. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Atom Publishing Format and Protocol (atompub) - 1 of 1 Token: Scott Hollenbeck The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Protocol for carrying Authentication for Network Access (pana) - 1 of 3 Token: Thomas Narten The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Extensible Authentication Protocol (eap) - 2 of 3 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 3 of 3 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending updated text to the charter to be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 PERM - Protected Entertainment Rights Management (Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. 7.2 3667/3668 fix (Steve Bellovin) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to create and post an errata page for RFCs 3667 and 3668, and reissue as new RFCs as soon as possible. 7.3 Proposed Tools Team (Allison Mankin) The management issue was discussed. 7.4 Expedited Handling of Fibrechannel Documents (Allison Mankin) The management issue was discussed. The IESG supports the request to expedite draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-09 and draft-ietf-ips-fccovertcpip-12 for ANSI T11. Action item: o Allison Mankin to send the expedited handling request for draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-09 and draft-ietf-ips-fccovertcpip-12 to the Secretariat. o The Secretariat to forward the expedited handling request for draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-09 and draft-ietf-ips-fccovertcpip-12 to the RFC Editor. 7.5 Liaison with OIF (Bill Fenner) The IESG discussed the potential for a liaison with OIF; current IESG opinion is that such a relationship is worth exploring, and OIF status as industry consortium (not official SDO) was not relevant to whether or not the IESG chooses to liaise. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.